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froppo
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 Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:05 am Post subject: Is digital recording software making music more visual? |
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Just a quick question. Do you think that digital software, such as pro-tools, reason, fruity loops, etc. are causing the process of recording music to become more of a visual art than a listening art? I notice I have the tendency to use my eyes more than my ears when using these tools. Just a thought!
-Froppo
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lynnmonk
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| Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I agree with you.
I started sound engineering in the days long before computers, yet after only 6 years of using a DAW I feel I've acquired some bad habits that have led me to miss problems that I would have heard a lot earlier in the process had I been using my ears instead of concentrating on the wave forms on screen.
To combat this problem, I find that in taking a few days rest before finalising the mix, I can then spot on first listen, all the minor things I previously missed whilst concentrating on the screen.
On the plus side, the visual aspect does mean that musicans who are losing their hearing, can probably continue to work for sometime after they would normally have had to retire.
I am now 50, and in recent years my sensitivity to high frequencies has gone down from 20Khz to around 14Khz. But by keeping an eye on my visual spectrum analyser during the final mix and mastering, I can avoid unnecessarily boosting the very high frequencies to compensate for this loss.
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outside underpants
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i agree too. i started on cubase 1.0 on atari and quickly learned to do things visually - specially with their drum roll interface.
once i got into DAW i had some bad habbits so now i try to do most of my mixing with my eyes closed otherwize i'm not focussing on the music properly. |
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froppo
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject: Agreed |
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Yeah I agree. I've found that when I close my eyes I begin to focus more on the "music" rather than what "looks" good on screen. I also have noticed that taking a break helps as well.
-Froppo
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Brien
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| Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:08 am Post subject: Visual |
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| It's another tool for me. It helps to see the wav when cropping, fading and stuff. And watching levels is pretty much the same as looking at the board, 'cept I can do it from across a room:) I guess for me it is ears first.Speakers are at the console and the computer monitor is off to the right so I have to face the reference speakers to see with my ears. Yea, it's a good tool for me but won't replace listening where I am. |
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froppo
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| Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:09 pm Post subject: Good Idea! |
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I think it would really help if I put the computer monitor in a less accessible place. Then I could focus more on the board and the sound. I could keep the screen in a place that I could easily get to to view, but not so easy that my tendency is to immediately look at it....if that makes sense.
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longname
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:37 am Post subject: Re: Is digital recording software making music more visual? |
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 i agree ,yes it's becoming a visual art now what's more the skin of the software is getting cooler too.
| froppo wrote: | Just a quick question. Do you think that digital software, such as pro-tools, reason, fruity loops, etc. are causing the process of recording music to become more of a visual art than a listening art? I notice I have the tendency to use my eyes more than my ears when using these tools. Just a thought!
-Froppo
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Brien
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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The metering and monitoring of audio is not really more visual, you may just have more to look at. My opinion, but a valid one if I do say so myself.
Seeing a wav really doesn't do anything more then give you a guessing point but it can't tell you what is in "there", you gotta listen to it. It's a visual tool that is great for editing things, but really, how much more does it offer? So I see a wav...been doing that since Korgs d16. And who other then the person making/editing this audio will really see the "visual" aspect of it? It is, to me, more of moving the tools you use from where they use to be(a console) to a TV, which is what Bill gates and GE have been working on for decades.
Music has always been visual, go out and see the band right? And the T and A these days, I love it:) But it does distract me from what is good music and what is Britneys last best song.
Anyway, my 2 cents, hope I didn't get on anyones bad side with my opinion, |
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